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Date: Sat, 12 Mar 94 04:30:19 PST
From: Ham-Digital Mailing List and Newsgroup <ham-digital@ucsd.edu>
Errors-To: Ham-Digital-Errors@UCSD.Edu
Reply-To: Ham-Digital@UCSD.Edu
Precedence: Bulk
Subject: Ham-Digital Digest V94 #67
To: Ham-Digital
Ham-Digital Digest Sat, 12 Mar 94 Volume 94 : Issue 67
Today's Topics:
Best cars for mobile HF/VHF?? (5 msgs)
digital reflector
EMAIL to mid-ocean?
G-TOR INFO
Good car for HF/VHF mobile?? (2 msgs)
Tandy 102 for packet
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herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 12:19:49 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.csuohio.edu!sww@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Best cars for mobile HF/VHF??
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
Winnebago Industries makes a bunch of very fine vehicles for mobile HF.
You don't even have to worry about missing your turn off!
73,
Steve NO8M.#NEOH.OH.USA.NA
ag807@Cleveland.freenet.edu
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 13:56:13 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Best cars for mobile HF/VHF??
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
In article <2lor4d$krj@brahms.udel.edu> penneys@brahms.udel.edu (Robert Penneys) writes:
>I need to replace a car and want one which 100 watts or so of HF and 50 watts
>or so of 2 meters or 440 will not interfere with the electronics af the
>vehicle. Nor do I want ignition or other noise beyond the bare minimum.
>
>In consideration are four door sedans from the size of a Corolla up to that
>of a Taurus. or perhaps a minivan or small pickup. Replacing a Ford
>Aerostar.
>
>Will listen to all viewpoints. Tnx a million. Bob
Look at what the cops are driving. Ford Crown Victorias seem popular
with them, as do Chevy Caprices. Order your's with the same fleet codes
that they use and you'll have a car that works well with radios. (It'll
also have the heavy duty electrical system, cooling system, and suspension
of a cop car.) Get the same color scheme that they use for their unmarked
cars too, that way the antennas won't draw suspicion. (And you may avoid
some tickets.)
Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 15:14:37 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!apollo.hp.com!hpwin052!hpqmoea!dstock@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Best cars for mobile HF/VHF??
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
I'm happy with my choice, a Diesel powered Range-Rover derivative
called a "Discovery"
Give serious thought to Diesels, no ignition, no computers
David GM4ZNX
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 17:54:26 GMT
From: world!dts@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Best cars for mobile HF/VHF??
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
In article <CMIACE.D9C@hpqmoea.sqf.hp.com> dstock@hpqmoca.sqf.hp.com (David Stockton) writes:
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> I'm happy with my choice, a Diesel powered Range-Rover derivative
>called a "Discovery"
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> Give serious thought to Diesels, no ignition, no computers
>
And no emissions controls. :-( Diesel smoke is a suspension of carbon particles
impregnated with the byproducts of combustion, which is small enough to
enter your lungs and lodge in the lung walls. Once lodged all those combustion
byproducts leach out into your body. Diesel vehicles need dust traps at the
very least.
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> David GM4ZNX
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--
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Daniel Senie Internet: dts@world.std.com
Daniel Senie Consulting n1jeb@world.std.com
508-365-5352 Compuserve: 74176,1347
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Date: 11 Mar 1994 21:01:46 GMT
From: slinky.cs.nyu.edu!longlast.cs.nyu.edu!jackson@nyu.arpa
Subject: Best cars for mobile HF/VHF??
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
|> Look at what the cops are driving. Ford Crown Victorias seem popular
|> with them, as do Chevy Caprices. Order your's with the same fleet codes
|> that they use and you'll have a car that works well with radios. (It'll
|> also have the heavy duty electrical system, cooling system, and suspension
|> of a cop car.) Get the same color scheme that they use for their unmarked
|> cars too, that way the antennas won't draw suspicion. (And you may avoid
|> some tickets.)
I had been thinking the same thing for quite a while, too. Only not for the
ability to work with radios, more because the Caprices look like they'll be
a comfortable ride and the antennas will look normal on them. In fact, I've
been trying to find the tiny antennas they have mounted on the roof immediately
above to rear window for scanner use. That'll definitely finish the image off.
Problem is, what are they usually tuned to? Of course, you could always get
a cellular lookalike 2m trunk lip mount to complement the roof mount.
--
Steven Jackson New York University
Assistant to the Chair of Comp Sci Courant Inst. of Mathematical Sciences
jackson@cs.nyu.edu, jcksnste@acfcluster 251 Mercer St, Room 411,NY 10012
"Not in my head.. so I don't have to think.." -- Nik Fiend
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Date: 11 Mar 94 20:32:47 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: digital reflector
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
SUBSCRIBE
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 21:12:56 -0500
From: yale.edu!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@yale.arpa
Subject: EMAIL to mid-ocean?
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
Well, let me say this. At the risk of offending anyone, And I don't mean to,
please folks, and this is directed with a smile at Tim research your material
before you post, I had the best laugh I've ever had read this newsgroup.
All, I can say is the following, Tim says that in part, amateur radio was
not created to build comunication networks, well, what do you call emerangancy,
The Maritime Mobile Net and The Waterway Net? Hence the word net,, "Internet"
I think if he stoped aminiute he would realize that his relitaves could use
the Maritime Mobile Net, provided they could get thru all the fighting and
crap going on down there, or they could use The Waterway Net.
Please forgive me, I don't mean to come off to stronge, I'm sorry but I just
had to get it off my chest.
Regards, John In Miami
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 12:15:45 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.csuohio.edu!sww@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: G-TOR INFO
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
To say that the computer will have to work overtime to shore up the
TNC is confusing. It implies that G-Tor will require a specific
application running on the terminal. If that is the case, it is time
to cancel my order. I want to use it with an external BBS (MSYS) which
will, if it is worth it, be gratiously added by the author, WA8BXN.
Has anyone else heard that a specific appication is needed or is this
hype due to the faster thoughput they are claiming (hi hi)?
73,
Steve NO8M.#NEOH.OH.USA.NA
ag807@Cleveland.freenet.edu
(replies to the header address will bounce)
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Date: 11 Mar 1994 07:06:39 -0500
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!udel!news.udel.edu!brahms.udel.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Good car for HF/VHF mobile??
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
I need to get another car and want one which will be radio-friendly for 100
watts or so of HF, mostly CW, and 50 or so of 2 meters and 440.
Criteria are:
No interference to electronics of car by RF
Minimal noise generated by car
Reasonable space for rigs
Reasonable mounting of antennas
Etc.
Car will probably be four door sedan in size range from Corolla to Taurus.
All comments welcomed. Thanks. Bob
--
Bob Penneys, WN3K Frankford Radio Club Internet: penneys@pecan.cns.udel.edu
Work: Ham Radio Outlet (Delaware) (800) 644-4476; fax (302) 322-8808
Mail at home: 12 East Mill Station Drive Newark, DE 19711 USA
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 16:01:35 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.utdallas.edu!feenix.metronet.com!serafin@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Good car for HF/VHF mobile??
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
In article <2lpmsf$8do@brahms.udel.edu>,
Robert Penneys <penneys@brahms.udel.edu> wrote:
>I need to get another car and want one which will be radio-friendly for 100
>watts or so of HF, mostly CW, and 50 or so of 2 meters and 440.
Shees, and people complain about the cellphones stuck to peoples ears
while in traffic. :-)
>
>Criteria are:
>No interference to electronics of car by RF
>Minimal noise generated by car
>Reasonable space for rigs
>Reasonable mounting of antennas
>
>Car will probably be four door sedan in size range from Corolla to Taurus.
How about a Suburban with a Diesel engine? Only interfering electronics
you should have to worry about is the alternator. And it has tons of
space for antennas.
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 14:34:14 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Tandy 102 for packet
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
In article <CMHG3L.IKD@freenet.carleton.ca> af017@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (David R. Smith) writes:
>
>
>I just bought a bare bones Tandy 102 and wonder what extra
>accessories I need to transmit and receive email and post
>to a packet bbs?
The telcom program built into your computer will work to
communicate with a TNC (Terminal Node Controller). This
is an external box, sort of like a phone modem except that
it's designed for packet radio. (No you can't use a phone
modem, packet is different enough that it won't work with
a regular phone modem.) These units cost from $110 to $900+.
You don't need an expensive one, a MFJ1270 or MFJ1274 will
do fine, as will a PacComm Tiny 2. The TNC connects to a
voice grade radio, most likely 2 meters, but check with
local hams first. The Alinco DR-130 is a workhorse radio
for this purpose, costs about $300, but an older crystal
controlled radio that you can find at a hamfest for $25-
$50 will work just as well. (You can often find used TNCs
at hamfests too, about $65 seems the going rate.)
>I realize I need a license to transmit, but perhaps while
>I am studying, I could listen or capture packets to understand
>it better.
If you have a scanner, you can take the audio from it to feed
the TNC for monitoring. Use the "monitor on" command in the
TNC to see all the activity on the channel. This is a good
way to see what it's all about.
>Also is anyone getting in trouble with the gov these days
>for passing third party messages, as amateurs, in either
>the US or Canada? I just read here that it is ok in the UK.
>cheers
US and Canadian rules regarding third party traffic are rather
liberal. The UK is *much* more restrictive. Just avoid dirty
words and commercial content and you'll be fine.
Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
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